Skeptic Project

For? Against? Indifferent?

My view concerning religion is agnostic.

With that being said, I have no problem with the proposed community center. The people who oppose this are placing collective religious guilt on Muslims for 911, and its wrong.

Check out this video, these people are insane:

"A man walks through the crowd at the Ground Zero protest and is mistaken as a Muslim. The crowd turns on him and confronts him. The man in the blue hard hat calls him a coward and tries to fight him. The tall man who I think was one of the organizers tried to get between the two men. Later I caught up with the man who's name is Kenny. He is a Union carpenter who works at Ground Zero. We discussed what a scary moment that was for him. I told him that I hoped it did not ruin his day."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwaNRWMN-F4

People are just stupid. That's all it is, no more no less. If it were Christians and they wanted to put a church there, the right wouldn't say a damn thing. The hypocrisy from these people really gets me so mad, and I know I shouldn't let it, but this kind of ignorance just amazes me.

I swear, every time I hear someone say, "If they allow this mosque, it's like planting a victory flag" I want to slap someone.

As for the "For or against", I really don't care and it's none of my business. They have every right to put one there as far as I'm concerned. And to be honest, part of me really wants them to put it there just to piss these people off even more.

It's not a mosque. It's a room of worship inside a recreational center.

It's not near ground zero. It's several blocks away and does not have a direct view of the site.

There is at least one existing mosque close to ground zero. This one is roughly 800 feet away from the proposed recreational center:

http://www.masjidmanhattan.com/</p>

This is one of the debates of my time that will remind me that mainstream media distorts facts to impose an agenda. Then again, I've been watching Fox News for the last week, so maybe I'm just biased.

You know, this reminds me of a video where Jon Stewart logically deduces that in order to curtail terrorism, we have to stop watching Fox News because some terrorist partly owns the station.

By them denouncing the recreational center, they are spreading hate and weakening the American tolerance of people who have never harmed them. They've helped spread the message that Muslims as a whole should be discriminated against.

How far away is the recreational center from Ground Zero? I've heard it said as being 2 blocks away, but I think it's further than that...

If it is the government funding for this recreational center and will be owning it, I can see where this will be a non-ending debate since it is convoluted with taxpayer's money, and politics.

My response to someone claiming that since there is already a mosque nearby, there's no need for a second one:

Why have a second school, post office, gym, Wal-Mart, police station, bank, Republican campaign office, or Christian church near the first?

Let's say the Muslims are pushing this in our face. So what? They have the right to do what they're doing. We don't have the right to stop it.

Well, it seems I've been severely misinformed about this issues. That's what I get for trying to debate without doing much research myself.

I guess the source for that claim, or at least the only source that I could find is the open letter to Mayor Bloomberg. Still can't find a source from any mosque or construction official, but the excerpt from the letter is:

"The opening date for the Ground Zero mosque is September 11, 2011, the 10 year anniversary of the horrific terrorist attack which is seared into the memory of all Americans and directly touches the lives of every New Yorker through friends, family or co-workers who perished on that day."

So, no truth to that claim at all? It really is shameful how some people will just blatantly lie like that. What's even worse is how these things can get integrated into people's minds as the truth just because sometimes we think "Why would someone lie about something that's so easily verifiable?" I mean, I just fell for it right now.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=6253868#post6253868

"Infowars had an article about it on their website."

lol

Off topic: I've been looking at this ericsnow guy's posts at JREF. This one made me lol. I didn't know what his YouTube video was linking to; as you hit play, look at who created it.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=6267987#post6267987

I'm with you guys on this. Muslims died rescuing people on 9-11. Muslim children are going to grow up without a dad because of 9-11. The Muslim extremist angle on GOP talk radio is scary.

Nice one, Muertos.

If you can raise the requisite $100 million, you might also build a shrine to Satan on this spot, complete with the names of all the non-believing victims of 9/11 destined to suffer for eternity in Hell.

Haha, holy shit this guy's insane!