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scitopsPosted: Feb 24, 2010 - 18:52
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advancedatheistPosted: Feb 24, 2010 - 20:03
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If some homeless guy came up to you on the street and asked you Ron Paul's sorts of questions, you would immediately assess him as a mental patient. I can see why some of the more rational conservatives consider him an embarrassment.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Feb 25, 2010 - 00:40
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That was quite embarrassing to watch. I love Bernanke's expression around 4:50 in that video.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Feb 25, 2010 - 00:46
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Apparently Ron Paul thinks inflation and medical expenses are connected, even though the latter has increased far more beyond inflation.

The video really shows Ron Paul has no idea what the fuck he's talking about.

Speaking of, I can't really understand what Barney Frank is saying most of the time, he really needs a speech therapist.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Feb 26, 2010 - 14:45
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advancedatheistPosted: Feb 26, 2010 - 16:15
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Thanks for the link, Edward.

Seriously, I have to ask: Do some well off people keep Austrian economics going, in defiance of market signals (e.g., private universities' lack of interest in teaching it) as a rationalization for investment scams?

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Feb 26, 2010 - 16:27
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Hey, now he's claiming the USSR was created by international bankers (see same link).

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advancedatheistPosted: Feb 26, 2010 - 16:45
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Come to think of it, my speculation has some historical support. According to the Wikipedia article about von Mises:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises#Professional_life</p>

Fearing the prospect of Germany taking control over Switzerland, in 1940 Mises with other Jewish refugees left Europe and emigrated to New York City. There he became a visiting professor at New York University, from 1945 until his retirement in 1969, though he was not salaried by the university. Instead, he earned his living from funding by businessmen such as Lawrence Fertig.

If other universities allowed that, business men could use them as fronts for legitimizing the teaching of whatever crackpot ideas they want, like Intelligent Design.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 26, 2010 - 17:12
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http://www.gmu.edu/depts/economics/bcaplan/whyaust.htm</p>

Admittedly, I don't understand a lot of this. But it seems to me the main argument against Austrian economics is that human beings simply aren't rational creatures. It almost reads like most criticism of objectivism that I have read.

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scitopsPosted: Mar 09, 2010 - 10:24
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When does everybody think the current Austrian economics craze will start to die out? I doubt Austrian economics will go away, however when will its popularity on the internet end? It was popular in the late 70s/early 80s and seemed to go away when the economy improved.

What will cause it to lose its popularity this time?

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 09, 2010 - 10:58
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"What will cause it to lose its popularity this time?"

Peter Schiff getting caught receiving a blowjob in a public men's room?

One can dream...

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advancedatheistPosted: Mar 09, 2010 - 12:20
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@ scitops:

When does everybody think the current Austrian economics craze will start to die out?

I suspect an astroturfing effort keeps it going. The market hasn't exactly rewarded Austrian economists by buying their books in mass quantities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

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advancedatheistPosted: Mar 10, 2010 - 11:24
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Over the week end I caught up with a friend I hadn't seen in a few years. He has a Ph.D. in physics, not economics, and he has never worked in banking or finance. Yet he gave me his explanation of the recent financial crisis and how it will lead to catastrophic hyperinflation any day now, an argument with Austrian economics written all over it.

I didn't want to piss him off by disputing it.

But I did notice he said something which shows how the Austrian economists keep changing the goal posts. He claimed that historically fiat currencies fail after about 40 years, and he dated the beginning of ours from 1971 when President Nixon decoupled the U.S. dollar from gold:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_Shock</p>

Uh, I thought the disaster started in 1913, with the creation of the Federal Reserve. According to my friend's 40 year rule, wouldn't that have caused U.S. fiat money to fail circa 1953?

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 10, 2010 - 11:28
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"Uh, I thought the disaster started in 1913, with the creation of the Federal Reserve. According to my friend's 40 year rule, wouldn't that have caused U.S. fiat money to fail circa 1953?"

Yes, but despite your friend's apparent competence at physics, he is unable to recognize his incompetence at economics.

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advancedatheistPosted: Mar 10, 2010 - 11:48
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Ironically these Austrian types always talk about the power of incentives; yet they don't explain what incentive banks would have to allow hyperinflation to happen. Hyperinflation destroys the value of loans because debtors can pay them back with depreciated currency, a development which doesn't benefit creditors at all.

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