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DisordeR | Posted: Aug 16, 2010 - 04:58 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | As far as I can be sure, chemtrails do exist and I think they are totally benevolent. I'm not scared of them as some people are and have been trying for ages to persuade people away from their paranoia. Unfortunately its an uphill struggle and I have become infuriated. This is my reasoning so feel free to discuss with me. The reason why chemtrails might exist at all is because of cloud seeding[1], cloud seeding technology has been around for a while and is beneficial to the planet during the solar cycles[2] our star goes through. Every 10-11 years the sunspot activity changes on the surface, causing extreme radiation to bombard this planet[3]. The radiation (and subsequently any solar flares that may arise) will of course damage human beings and be a hindrance to technology. If we didn't have the clouds we would probably be carbon putty and all of our great gadgets would be kaput. The reason why any more radiation that normal would be reaching us, is probably due to the lack (or depletion) of our Ozone layer which is caused not strictly by man but a combination of man's activity, overcrowded cities, traffic (including commercial) and of course the destruction of any forests or green areas and rubbish (or trash to you in america) including landfills and other dumping areas. I believe that we have grown too large for the earth to support us and itself simultaneously in terms of co2>oxygen generation. Likewise the large amount of people, vehicles and industries have increased the amount of oxygen>co2 consumption so of course we are getting into 'carbon debt' with the planet, as it were. I'm not quite sure what we can all do, but I think recycling and birth control are good to start. I'm not trying to be controversial with the second suggestion, but unless we start killing other people and destroying their lands (not that its being done already mind you) there can only be passive attempts at controlling our consumption of earth's limited resources. My conclusion is then that chemtrails are totally fine and are there so we can get on with our lives. Lets just hope out lives are filled with positive action. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding<br /> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle<br /> [3] http://www.solarcycle24.com/ | |||||
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Sky | Posted: Aug 16, 2010 - 05:50 |
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Level: 3 CS Original | Can you point out how cloud seeding helps the planet during solar cycles? The sources don't talk about that. I've heard of things like cloud seeding, rockets, flares, ect being mistaken for "chemtrails" before but I think most chemtrails just turn out to be regular contrails. | |||||
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Nanos | Posted: Aug 16, 2010 - 06:01 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | > I think recycling and birth control are good to start. Agreed. I'm not sure how to enforce birth control though legally, as at least in the west there seems offhand no way to get folk to do as they are told in that regard. (Eg. you can only use incentives..) > I think most chemtrails just turn out to be regular contrails. Thats my understanding too. Its a bit ironic that a church can say breed as much as possible and don't use birth control, but we can't seem to have an organisation that says only have 1 kid and use birth control.. | |||||
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DisordeR | Posted: Aug 16, 2010 - 06:41 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | Well from what I understand the difference between contrails and seeding trails is that contrails appear to go in a straight line, are sometimes twisted and dissipate after a few minutes. The seeding trails on the other hand, spread out like a rippling wave sort of thing. They stay around for longer and start to look like a white spongy plasma or something like that. Most observations I've made indicate that when these seeding clouds have been placed they soak up enough moisture to blanket the affected area with a grey uniform and slightly bumpy/wavy cloud screen. To answer sky's question. If extra solar radiation is hitting us then it is very bad if our ozone and atmosphere cannot repel it. In the past it has been very good at doing this but because of the drastic changes over time to our planet it cannot hold its own any more so we need a protective cover in between. Cloud seeding is a moderately cheap and easy way to provide a cover, as being closer to the earth means that there is a lot less surface area to try and cover(think about big panels in space protecting us, there would have to many times more as the circumference of earth, thus the surface area to try and protect would be insane). As for what is happening with the sun, well you have probably heard of sunspots but when there are none on the sun's surface, or very little then it means the radiative heat and EM influences are very great. | |||||
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Nanos | Posted: Aug 16, 2010 - 10:28 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | > dissipate after a few minutes http://contrailscience.com/how-long-do-contrails-last/</p> > a contrail can last as little as a fraction of a second, or as long as several hours | |||||
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DisordeR | Posted: Aug 16, 2010 - 10:51 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | Cool info, though from what I'm aware of they don't last the same amount of time at different altitudes. ie you need to keep all planes at a fixed temperature and fixed altitude to have the same length ones. also contrails appear very high up where the air is cooler I believe. Unfortunately that is only 3 questions and a brief explanation, which doesnt really explain a lot from both sides of the argument. Its like that info has been cherry-picked to draw attention to properties of ice water so of course all planes *must* be dropping water vapour and there must be no other strange coincidences especially none of the strange blankets of cloud I keep seeing. I can to some degree predict when its going to rain based on how many of the cloud seeding trails I see. If it has few streaks I can say if its going to be overcast, if it has a lot of streaks I can say if it will rain and depending on how dark the clouds are I can even predict how many days for. But I cant predict the weather and I never have been able to, I just look up at the sky and take a guess!? It can't be that I'm right almost all of the time by random chance can it? | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Aug 16, 2010 - 13:42 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | "It can't be that I'm right almost all of the time by random chance can it? " Most people remember the times that they are right and forget the times that they are wrong. It's like this with everything, especially psychics... which is why they may get 9/10 things wrong... but people will hold on and dearly remember that 1/10 thing that they got right. The best way to see for yourself is to keep track in a notebook or something of every prediction you make and it's outcome, that way you can review it and see if you really are right most of the time. After reading your posts, I'm still confused about your stance on chemtrails. Are you equating them to just being like cloud seeding or what? @Nanos: "Its a bit ironic that a church can say breed as much as possible and don't use birth control, but we can't seem to have an organisation that says only have 1 kid and use birth control.. " Well our glorious Masonic/Illuminati Georgia Guidestones say that we should only have two! | |||||
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Sky | Posted: Aug 16, 2010 - 14:21 |
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I don't know a lot about cloud seeding, but from what I read, they're not creating clouds, just changing the amount of precipitation that is produced by the clouds, so how exactly would it affect solar radiation? | |||||
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Sky | Posted: Aug 16, 2010 - 14:55 |
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I tried to find pictures of what cloud seeding would look like from the ground but most sources describe a thin trail that would difficult to see because it happens inside or above the clouds. | |||||
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DisordeR | Posted: Aug 18, 2010 - 04:31 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | Maybe its something more rational like a new type of fuel. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Aug 18, 2010 - 23:32 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | Maybe it's Maybeline. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Aug 18, 2010 - 23:59 |
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