Skeptic Project

This obviously relates to Venus Project enthusiasm:

Life is Not a Science Fiction Story, by Mike Treder

http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/treder20100211/</p>

Many transhumanists are under the mistaken impression that the world they live in operates like a science fiction novel. It doesn’t.

This cognitive confusion seems to underlie some of the conflicts between moderate technoprogressives, like me, and the more exuberant types who expect that radical, wondrous changes are always just around the corner—because they read it in a book.

Don’t get me wrong. I love reading science fiction. I find it fascinating, compelling, mind-expanding, and occasionally even well-written. But I try to remember the second word in that genre description: fiction.

You see, the real world is not a story. It is not designed to be easily understood, to have a beginning, a middle, and an end. It doesn’t have a moral. It cannot be edited to improve clarity and flow.

The actual world we inhabit is complex, confused, arbitrary, random, chaotic, contingent, and messy. It’s hardly the stuff of a best-selling novel, or at least not the kind that seems to incite such zeal among transhumanists who believe that what they read in a book or saw in a movie must be true.

No, if real life was a science fiction story, it would be very different.

"What The Venus Project proposes is actually very simplistic, but it seems lost on some people how simplistic it is."

Yeah, pollyanna concepts are often simple.

What's your point?

@Brenton,

Ironic coming from someone who dodges every question he can't answer.

Why should I even try to discuss anything with you? You only answer questions that your narrative allows you to and then claim people didn't ask you questions.

Eat shit.

@Brenton,

I asked you plenty of questions. Stop being as intellectually dishonest as your guru Joseph.

@Brenton,

If you had answered them, I wouldn't be talking to you.

Trust me, I wouldn't. I find you extremely annoying.

@Brenton,

"As Nanos, a member on the ZM forums, has highlighted: there are government funds just waiting for us if we were to get up off our asses and apply for them. The thing is that such a thing requires high organization and specific planning - two things the Movement is not facilitating at all at this time." - Brenton Eccles

"The Movement does have internal leadership. Especially in the cities and towns where the chapter meetings are becoming regular and getting large numbers of folks turning up." - Brenton Eccles