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"Anyone have any strategies for dealing with Icketilian believers?"

Mock them relentlessly.

"Mock them relentlessly."

That goes without saying. I meant, besides that.

No, it's very difficult. I used to be part of that forum and had to leave because I felt like I was going insane. The amount of negativity and fear on the forum is overwhelming, yet one of the things Icke says is that the Illuminati use fear to control the people. Right. And he himself uses the EXACT same tactic.

I have personally looked into snake symbolism, since he thinks all the snake symbolism is proof of reptilians, and he has gotten it all so, so wrong. (You have to pity the fool) Snakes are a symbol of transformation, knowledge, life and rebirth and because of that they are found in a lot of different myths. (Just like birds, fishes, lions, horses and so on. Why don't horses rule the world? Why snakes?)

We also have to keep in mind that one of the reasons he believes in reptilians is because he "saw" few of them when he did ayahuasca. Now, psychologically speaking, Icke was probably going through somekind of important life change at the time and when this is happening to a person, using drugs is not a good idea. You are speeding up the process and your body won't be able to handle it, thus you end up "frying" your system.

The result of his experiments with drugs was that he became schizophrenic and paranoid, which is a classic side-effect of drugs like ayahuasca. That what he saw in a drug-haze was not real, if anything, he was being tricked by his own unconscious (or for the scientific lads here, his brain/hallucinations). Also, a lot of people tend to see dreams of snakes when they are going through big life changes, but that doesn't mean that snakes are in control! He connected the dots, but he didn't connect them correctly. None of this would be a problem if he didn't end up becoming a goddamn guru who is followed religiously by many.

Icke also uses the bible as his SOURCE for a lot of the things he says. HELLO! The bible!

I personally find Icke to be far more dangerous than Jones, because it's Icke that is behind the massive movement against the occult, symbolism and the rehashed satanic panic. (Vigilant Citizen, anybody? He supports the website.) He also happens to have a lot of followers that are devout Christians. This of course shouldn't be a suprise, considering that he is rehashing 80's satanic panic with a twist by claiming that the Clintons, Bush family, Obama and etc sacrifice children, shapeshift into reptilians and that they all get together to do satanic rituals. This is all very, very Christian stuff. I could go into more detail, but I feel like I have already said enough.

Impossible to debunk.

Anything you use to debunk it, they will reject it.

They have created a fantastic reality around themselves, and reject anything that threatens it.

"1. Shapeshifing live on video OMG"

Yeah, it's really shocking. Take for instance this video, which calls itself "PROOF of Reptilian Shapeshifters":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myCivgU5UMc

Or this one, which is absolutely incontrovertible:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q2LQTyrE_c

This is why trying to debunk Icketilians is fucking boring. You end up wasting time watching videos of people giving financial reports or political speeches, and then the CTs freeze-frame them to make them even more dull.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhO26a0pKfM

Too much 1980s sci fi on David Ickes behalf.

One of the videos that seems to have the most views is the "BUSH REPTILIAN THE VIDEO THAT WOKE UP THE WORLD". Is that really their smoking gun?

Neck bulge, eh?

Blonde girl here is definitely a reptoid then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCcmhn0mD14