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The Burger KingPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 11:23
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Judge William Adams, seen on tape beating daughter: I was right
http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/218731/81/Dad-seen-on-tape-beating-daughter-I-was-right


Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the internet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl9y3SIPt7o


PORTLAND, Texas -- The daughter of a Texas judge who posted a YouTube video last week of the savage beating she received at his hands says she has experienced an outpouring of support, but feels some regret for making it public.

Hillary Adams said that, until last week, only a couple of close friends knew about the 2004 beating by her father, Aransas County Court-at-Law Judge William Adams, who handles child abuse cases. He is now the subject of a police investigation.

He says he did nothing wrong.

The 8-minute video showing her father lashing her 17 times with a belt and threatening to beat her "into submission" had been watched more than 1 million times by early Thursday.

"I'm experiencing some regret because I just pulled the covers off my own father's misbehavior after so many people thought he was such a good person. ... But so many people are also telling me I did the right thing," she told The Associated Press outside her mother's home in the town of Portland, on the state's Gulf Coast near Corpus Christi.

"He's supposed to be a judge who exercises fit judgment," she said.

Police in Rockport, where the 51-year-old judge lives, opened an investigation Wednesday after receiving calls from several concerned citizens, Police Chief Tim Jayroe said.

William Adams has been receiving threatening phone calls and faxes at the courthouse since the video went online, Aransas County Sheriff Bill Mills said.

"People are upset, understandably upset. But emotions can't really run this thing," Mills said.

No one answered the door Wednesday at the judge's home, repeated calls to his office rang unanswered and his attorney did not respond to phone messages seeking comment. A neighbor said she saw Adams and his girlfriend packing luggage, a briefcase and rifles into their truck, as if to leave for a while.

Corpus Christi television station KZTV caught up with the judge while he was getting into his vehicle Wednesday, and he confirmed it was him in the video. But he said it "looks worse than it is" and he doesn't expect to be disciplined.

"In my mind, I haven't done anything wrong other than discipline my child after she was caught stealing," Adams said. "And I did lose my temper, but I've since apologized."

When told of her father's comments, Hillary Adams said, "It's a shining perfect example of his personality and he believes he can do no wrong. ... He will cover up rather than admit to what he did and try to come clean, which is what I really want him to do."

She stressed that she did not post the video as revenge and does not want her father punished. Rather, she did it because she thinks it will force him to seek help, and because he has been harassing her and she thought posting the clip would make that stop.

"We need to reach out to victims and the abusers themselves to get people to realize what it actually is," she said.

Hillary, who was 16 at the time, said she secretly videotaped the beating in her bedroom because she "knew something was about to happen." She says her parents were angry at her for using her computer to download pirated content over the Internet.

In the clip's opening seconds, William Adams is heard telling Hillary's mother, "Go get the belt. The big one. I'm going to spank her now." With belt in hand, he turns off the light and tries forcing his daughter to bend over the bed to be beaten, but she refuses.

"Lay down or I'll spank you in your (expletive) face," Adams screams while he lashes her with sweeping blows across the legs, ignoring her wails and pleas for him to stop.

A few minutes into the video, Hillary's mother barks at her to "turn over like a 16-year-old and take it! Like a grown woman!" For about a minute, the ordeal appears to have ended after both parents leave the room and shut the door. But the judge then storms back into the room and the beating resumes.

Child advocates roundly condemned the beating as abuse. But investigators may decide that the judge's actions, while shocking, weren't criminal.

The lines between what's deemed child abuse and what's considered an acceptable level of discipline differ in various parts of the United States and among various social groups, though the use of objects such as belts and sticks is usually seen as beyond any normal physical punishment, said David Finkelhor, a University of New Hampshire sociology professor who heads the school's Crimes against Children Research Center.

Jim Hopper, a clinical instructor in psychology at Harvard Medical School and a child abuse expert, said there is no doubt that the judge's actions crossed the line.

"This is an act of brutal violence," Hopper said. "To beat someone into submission is not discipline. To beat a child into submission makes it harder for that child to take in rules and the values that the parent believes they are imposing on the child."

Loyola Law School Criminal Law Professor Laurie Levinson told CBS News, "There is no way to justify what happened in this video."

Levinson says she believes it would be a hard case to prosecute. "This happened several years ago, and the statute of limitations has passed," she says. "The second thing is that in Texas, like in some other states, there's an exception for corporal punishment."

Adams, Aransas County's top judge, was elected in 2001 and has dealt with at least 349 family law cases in the past year alone, nearly 50 of which involved state caseworkers seeking determine whether parents were fit to raise their children.

Patrick Crimmins, a spokesman for the state Department of Family and Protective Services, said in an email that the agency is aware of the video and "will take the appropriate steps in this matter." He said the agency would have no further comment.

Steve Fischer, a longtime attorney in Rockport, called Adams fair and a "better than average" judge. He said Adams sometimes showed anger, but not in a way that would be considered unusual.

Hillary, whose parents divorced in 2007 after 22 years of marriage, said she waited this long to post the video because she didn't know what would have happened to her had she posted it just after it happened.

"If this had blown up when I was a minor who knows where I would be. I wouldn't be able to escape."

While Hillary is close with her mother, she suspects the video will only further alienate her from her father's side of the family. Still, she says she believes it was the right thing to do.

"I'm very relieved that these things have been brought to light and not because I want to see my father burn or anything like that. That's a hideous way of thinking and I don't want to inflict that upon him," she said. "I cannot stress enough -- I cannot repeat myself enough, that he just needs help."

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Agent MattPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 11:53
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That's not discipline you faget, that's abuse.
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The Burger KingPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 12:04
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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^ I just put a title on the topic. I don't agree with what he did.
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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 12:19
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When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap sack and beaten with reeds.


But seriously, that dad is a piece of shit.

EDIT: I just watched the whole damn thing, and I'm sorry I did. This is what human scum looks like.
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anticultistPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 12:49
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Yeah that video is disturbing to watch parents gang up on a girl like that.


He will probably get a light sentence or fine being that he's a judge, but I think he really deserves a good fucking public lashing.
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The Burger KingPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 13:04
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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I think the force applied was overkill for just downloading music on the internet. That's like a dude getting belted for downloading porn off the internet. It doesn't deserve that much force as was applied.
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The Real RoxettePosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 13:35
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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16 years old, downloading games/music, oh lord, let's beat her like a disobedient Roman centurion.
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CyborgJesusPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 15:34
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Oh for fucks sake outlaw corporal punishment already.
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Agent MattPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 16:28
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I think not. just punish those who take it to extremes.
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CyborgJesusPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 16:52
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That just leaves the door open to define what's extreme and what's not. Stop all of it, you don't lose anything remotely valuable and you don't have to deal with all the legal hassle.
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slayerx3Posted: Nov 03, 2011 - 17:15
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Wow, I've gotten the lash when I was a kid, but not for nothing too mundane or light like that (I almost set a house alight when playing with lighters, I was a little devil when I was a kid).

Beating her like that for downloading music ? Come on, that isn't something severe like stealing from a store or smoking at the age of 10.
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Agent MattPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 17:58
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The state should only intervene in parenting when it is necessary.
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Elm Nehmara Grand RapidsPosted: Nov 03, 2011 - 18:44
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She was downloading pirated games and music. I guess in this guy's eyes that's tantamount to actually stealing something physical.

Still, it doesn't justify his actions and he should have taken a different course. At least a light spanking and maybe a calm, rational lecture on pirating. Whether or not she continued to partake in downloading pirated software or whatever after that is on her.
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The Burger KingPosted: Nov 04, 2011 - 12:53
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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Anonymous made a video on this. That 7 minute video now has 4 million views on it.

Anonymous - Operation DoxTheJudge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIilPRQmzvE
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anticultistPosted: Nov 04, 2011 - 13:06
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The original video turns my fucking stomach, i just want to break the shit bags arms.
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Caramel ColorPosted: Nov 04, 2011 - 15:04
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hey sailor

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This wouldn't fly if you did it to another adult, why should it be ok to do to a child? A disabled one, no less. The article does't mention she has some sort of palsy.
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Agent MattPosted: Nov 04, 2011 - 15:06
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Ataxic cerebral palsy.
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PathfinderPosted: Nov 04, 2011 - 15:25
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It's one thing to discipline. It's another to senselessly beat a girl, while ganging up on her, yelling at her, cursing at her, and all of that shit.

"Lost your temper." No excuse pal. You're human and worthless like the rest of us.
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KeppPosted: Nov 04, 2011 - 16:03
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Just watched it, fuck that made me rage.
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Omni-SciencePosted: Nov 04, 2011 - 22:09
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Sickening.

Though, it's come to my attention that cases like these only seem to happen to young teenage girls. It almost seems as if parents like this will only attack their kids like this if they know they won't fight back/report them to the police.
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PathfinderPosted: Nov 05, 2011 - 15:14
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My parents saw that last night. They disciplined me back in the day when I needed it, but even they could barely stand to watch that.

I still can't get over that jack ass defending his actions.
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