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Diana Sue (bitch)

"What makes you think you have a right to speak so disrespectfully to people? Your filthy mouth is not appreciated, and I don't have to tolerate it. I don't suffer fools lightly in any event, much less ones so ignorant as to have to resort to continual vulgar language. It proves your ignorance."

Freddy Jose Delatorre (tubular radical teen)

‎"'What makes you think you have a right to speak so disrespectfully to people'

What sort of really shitty crack derived from monkey balls that you snort up your asshole makes your retarded self think that you have the right to demand respect from people?

Shit, man, I feel sorry for those monkeys.

Your anti-vax rhetoric is not only wrong, but actually causes the deaths of innocent, ignorant people.

Given that, Why should I make any goddamn attempt to give a godforsaken shit about being "respectful" to you?"

Yes, I still am on this page.

I consider that comment my magnum opus.

My girlfriend says I come across as unjustifiably aggressive.

What do y'all think?

I do.

Just answer the question.

I do not see the point in not trashing anti vaxxer rhetoric.

Am I missing something here?

Yeah, I'll try to not directly insult personally.

I'LL FUCKING TREAT THEIR CLAIMS LIKE SHIT THOUGH.

How so?

Awwww........ ;_;

To be slightly redeeming, I do try to not friendly-fire people who are genuinely ignorant or pro-vax people.

Hope I get more practice then.

Okay, I turned to a different approach this time.

A stuffed paultard, 9/11 TWOOF shirt, and 50 gold-standard dollars for correctly guessing the CS member I am attempting to emulate.

Mary Aguirre

"And John, thank you for being polite..Freddy doesn't bring any influence to the argument...The second I see he's called me a name I stop reading his posts....I most likely will not be swayed only because I've talked with parents and I've done lots of research, and I actually had to change my beliefs with what I found. I used to be like you all, but I couldn't ignore the truth.....The CDC WHO and the FDA are fraught with mistake after mistake when it come to vaccines...I sincerely hope you all do some real research and talk with parents of children who've been injured by vaccines..These parents know their children better than any doctor or pharmaceutical company...If you don't believe them I'm sorry for you, because you are living with blinders on and one day you all will have a very rude awakening..The truth will come out, it's just a matter of time....Maybe then we will have safe vaccines....God Bless........"

Mary Aguirre

"Well Freddy, thanks for not calling me names..Anti-vaxxer is not really an insult to me so that won't count..I understand what your saying and it can be confusing and frustrating for people on both sides of this argument..There are doctors and scientific studies saying both sides are correct...I try not to buy into conspiracy theories but I feel there is a force that keeps us Americans at each others throats..It seems like everyones against everyone...We need to learn how to get along even when we disagree...I bet you would be surprised at what you have in common with the people you call anti-vaxxers..this is just one subject, don't hate people because of it...People on both sides feel they are doing whats right for humanity and that alone should be a reason to respect each other..We are arguing because we care about one another, and that's the truth...So lets all try and get along...."

Freddy Jose Delatorre

"You have ignored my requests and inquires for evidence and further elaboration. It's becoming extremely irritating to watch you make cognitive and emotional tap dances around my simple, straight forward questions. I'll ask again.

1. Exactly what preservatives are "toxic" in vaccines? How? In what dosage? What is the detailed chemical and physiological effect of these as-of-yet unnamed "toxins"? How does your evidence trump the current evidence that justifies the current scientific consensus on vaccines?

2. You have questioned the responsibility and, much more importantly, the credibility of several very large and respected organizations that serve to promote health and wellness. I want your evidence of mismanagement, irresponsibility, etc., that give sufficient ground for your doubts to stand on.

Your comments are full of intellectual inhibition. When you make claims, it your complete and total obligation to provide the evidence for said claims yourself. "Do your own 'research' and you'll agree with me" can not, will not, and should not be accepted as valid evidence to support your claim. It is not accepted, and actually looked contemptuously upon by the scientific community, because it reeks of the lacking of skepticism and the likened sort of inquiry as well as the promotion of baseless must-take-at-face-value claims. This is by definition, not science.

On a further note........

You obviously do not understand the difference of having the right to express an opinion and/or stance.....

And the extremely selective privilege of having said opinion and/or stance respected.

This one of those "sounds bad but makes perfect sense when thought about for more than like, .2 seconds" concepts that people such as yourself fail to comprehend. Let's see if you can think about it long enough.

And it is this observation that serves to explain why the scientific community rejects anti-vax rhetoric."

How obvious was it?

(Lol, I'll make sure to do that next time)

Yeah, I'm going to say Muertos. It especially reminds me of his post asking Brenton the Mormonism questions.

That easter egg has a bite out of it though.

(gives you gifts)

I wish Muertos was here to see this. I'll send a Tweet.

Continuing the experiment. How the fuck does Muertos maintain his cool while typing?

Mary Aguirre

"Dear Freddy, I want all your evidence and then I'll be more then happy to post some for you...And I do understand people have the right to express their opinions, I think it is you who don't get that concept.........I used to be pro-vaxx for a long time and was a staunch believer that vaccines were the best thing since chocolate, then I started to read the facts and listen to the parents of autistic children..Children don't just ketch autism like a cold..Theres all these kids that were healthy then got vaccinated and were all of the sudden autistic, whats that about? Buy the way thanks for complementing my balls, I just call it like it is..If you Google all the problems and dishonesty associated with the CDC, WHO and the FDA it will take you months to read..For us to simply trust these organizations is foolish...I'll be waiting for all your great proof and mind you I've most likely read it before...I've dug deep to find evidence to proof "anti-vaxxers" wrong, but the more I dug the more I realized I was wrong....It does take some big balls to admit your wrong, but once you do the truth will set you free....I will however take some good evidence into consideration, I try to keep an opened mind when it comes to medicine; it's always changing for the better, for the most part...Good luck with finding your evidence......And I think GMOs might play a role in this whole autism fiasco...I'm not sure of that because there's no proof, but from what I've read it seems plausible... ............................God Bless.............."

Freddy Jose Delatorre

"No, do you not understand what 'burden of proof' means? You're the one questioning the claims of vaccines. Where is your evidence? I don't have to provide jack shit to you. I am not making claims here. You are.

1. You still haven't described to me how vaccine preservatives are toxic, or elaborated on the matter at all. You might want to do that. Or do you just ignore the claims you can't back up?

2. You once again have told me to "check the facts" and discover "the truth" when it comes to the various public health organizations. Did you flat out ignore what I said about how pseudo scientific and ass-backwards that makes you sound like? Or are you just plain stupid to the point of cognitive inability to process that?

You have completely and utterly failed miserably to grasp even a hint of the notion of providing evidence for one's own claims. You still haven't provided any evidence. I think you're full of absolute shit.

I want valid citations and sources, not vague-ass claims about "digging deeper" or 'finding the truth'.

'And I do understand people have the right to express their opinions, I think it is you who don't get that concept.........'

What concept do I not get? You sure do like being vague as fuck to cover your lack of ability to present your case.

Unlike you, I know exactly what concept you don't get. I'll tell you. You lack the ability to understand that stances and opinions can be expressed, but do not inherently deserve consideration or respect.
Ex: A historian who denies the Holocaust ever happened can publish, write, and speak publicly all he/she wants. Are they going to be considered anything other than an Anti-Semite piece of shit? Absolutely not. Why? Because overwhelming evidence exists to suggest the opposite of what the Holocaust historian claims. There is no middle ground in that scenario. And especially not here. Anti-vaxxers ignore the mountains of evidence that points to the effectiveness and safety of vaccines, akin to Holocaust deniers ignoring the Nazi documents, mass graves, pictures, and concentration/death camps that undeniably point to the mass exterminations of 'Undesirables' from the Nazi point of view.

You are an anti-vaxxer. You are on par with Holocaust deniers because your dogma is actually causing the death of ignorant, innocent people. What do you have to say for yourself?

'Believer'? I am no believer in vaccines, or really anything (including God). Rather, I accept the well-established, observable fact that vaccines do indeed save lives, wipe out plagues, and give children a better chance to grow into adulthood."