Skeptic Project

"Our police since the late 1990's have militirized themselves to the point where people are dealing with litterally urban/rural combatants."

I don't see any evidence of that. The city I live in (Portland, OR) which actually has a reputation for police brutality, has seen no change in police tactics or activity in the last 10 years. I'm not sure what "urban/rural combatants" means. So far as I know crime rose to some degree in the last few years but it's still much lower than it has been since the 1960s. Police in our area at least are scrambling to get funding. If what you claim is actually true, wouldn't it make sense to see police funding increasing? It hasn't.

"Our police force, on a day to day basis are slowly disarming the local citizens of this country of their rights as american citizens. We have to stand up to them, they are pawns of the Global Elites."

1. Who are the "Global Elites"?
2. How many rights have you, Danny, personally been "disarmed" of?

1. The top 10 percent that own the wealth in this country. Look for names in Finicail magazines and what not.

2. Having to wear a damned ID to just to enter my classroom, lunchroom, gym, and to even EXIT the damn building. I have to use that garbage to pay for my food, to check out books, if i'm late it get's scan and I'm given a recepit that shows when I was scanned and when I got into the building.

What I mean os, the police are now becoming the army.

"1. The top 10 percent that own the wealth in this country. Look for names in Finicail magazines and what not."

Bill Gates and Warren Buffett control the police? Since when?

"2. Having to wear a damned ID to just to enter my classroom, lunchroom, gym, and to even EXIT the damn building. I have to use that garbage to pay for my food, to check out books, if i'm late it get's scan and I'm given a recepit that shows when I was scanned and when I got into the building."

Please identify which Constitutional rights are violated by this.

>> Having to wear a damned ID to just to enter my classroom, lunchroom, gym, and to even EXIT the damn building.

Most schools don't have that still, it's a response to things like Columbine. A lot of times steps are taken to make children "safer" that really aren't proper steps, because there are not steps that can be made. That is to say, an ID will never stop someone from walking into a school and shooting up the place -- never, ever, ever, but it makes the PTA/O feel better, the school board feel better. People feel better like they've done something, but they've done dick. It was much worse in 1999-2001, much worse than it is today; I'm glad I didn't have to deal with it personally, but my youngest brother did. He believed in the police state stuff, but he's an anarchist, he doesn't believe in conspiracy theories -- he doesn't have to, to justify his beliefs.

The first time I ever heard of schools requiring IDs were in intercity schools where a lot of non-students would come in to deal drugs, commit acts of violence, threaten people, etc. That was in the mid-1990s, and it died out until Columbine. After that people were freaking out about "gunshaped chicken fingers."

You're also too young to remember the very late 1980s and early 1990s when, in places like Los Angeles, the police really were like an army (and sometimes still are) and there were riots in response to this. Just because Alex Jones lies about secret training operations and claims that diners were shot up, doesn't make it true. It doesn't change the fact that training operations like that have happened since the dawn of organized police forces, or that a single bullet breaking a window of a diner in the middle of the night isn't the same thing as firing randomly into a diner.

Never underestimate hysteria, and never think hysteria and conspiracies are the same thing.

Danny, single-point incidents of police brutality or excessive action by themselves aren't very instructive. It would be like me trying to prove that police are getting calmer by posting stories about police officers helping little old ladies across the street.

You could make a case for changed police tactics by showing us studies that demonstrate police brutality incidents have increased nationwide by specific amounts. I don't know if that's true, but that's the type of evidence that would tend to support your claims.

And because Bill Gates and Warren Buffet CAN give money to influence politicians, what does this mean? Have you researched how much money these people gave to political candidates in the last election cycle, and which candidates? Do the candidates they gave money to support increased or different police tactics?

"they have the influence over the populous, they dictate what happends. "

How?

No, I'd rather you just tell me.

Danny, so you're suggesting that the dentist could fill his / her patients' cavities with mercury, or a surgeon could plant cancer cells in a patient to promote future surgeries?

Ultimately, you're suggesting that there is room for corruption among the wealthy elite. I think that's a possibility. Our society is built on a certain level of trust. We trust our dentists, our doctors, and even our mail men.

The question that Matt is asking, however, is what proof do you have that they are actually corrupt?

"That doesn't explain how Bill Gates can dictate public policy. "

Well put it like this. If Bill Gates wants a certain politican to pass/do ABC and said politicain doesn't, then his chances at getting reelcted and campaign are greatly affected. Said politicain won't recieve the funding or the public backing.

"Suppose this is true.

Why has no one exposed Bill Gates' hold on the American political system?"

Two reasons:

A) He doesn't care much for politics and MAYBE isn't involved.

or

B.) Who's ever he's funded has kept their mouth shut.

"So which explanation do you find more plausible?"

Either A or B is possible.

Think of it like this: If Oprah and various other celebs hadn't endorse Obama, the election would have a much different outcome.

Why don't you watch the Video matt. Unlike myself, I doubt you'll get terrified like I was the first few times I viewed it.

It's B.

No, just certain politicains.

They get small amounts of the pie. Hush money.

But not every politicain is under control. Unlike many of Alex Jones core-core followers, I don't believe that EVERYONE is involved.