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AKBastardPosted: Jan 31, 2011 - 21:47
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" After the original 13 (again!) American colonies won their ‘independence’ and an ‘independent’ country was formed after 1783, the Virginia Company simply changed its name to... the United States of America.

You see there are two USAs, or rather a USA and a usA. The united states of America with a lower case ‘u’ and ‘s’ are the lands of the various states. These lands, as we have seen, are still owned by the British Crown as the head of the old Virginia Company, although there is something to add about this in a moment.

Then there is the United States of America, capital ‘U’ and ‘S’, which is the 68 square miles of land west of the Potomac River on which is built the federal capital, Washington DC and the District of Columbia. It also includes the US protectorates of Guam and Puerto Rico. The United States of America is not a country, it is a corporation owned by the same Brotherhood reptilian bloodlines who owned the Virginia Company, because the USA is the Virginia Company!"
— David Icke; The Biggest Secret

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"This means that all the rights which applied to the owners of the Virginia Company to the gold, silver, minerals and duties, mined and paid in America, still apply to the British families who own the United States of America and the lands of the united states of America. Those same percentages have been paid since ‘independence’ and are still being paid by the American people via their federal officials who are, in fact, officials of the Virginia Company - yes, including the President.

...But here’s yet another twist. Who owns the assets apparently owned by the Virginia Company? Answer: the Vatican." — David Icke; The Biggest Secret

It's not the iguana shit I'm concerned with. Just Mr. Icke's understanding of history.

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anticultistPosted: Jan 31, 2011 - 21:51
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Thats based on the maritime law conspiracies and the freeman on the land stuff, the idea is that there are corporations set up that are acting as people.

the reality of it is the reason theres a USA company registered is for trading and being able to take your country to court should you ever have to. There are a lot of other details to it but as far as I know this whole stuff is literally the words of very misinformed and uneducated people trying to look at corporations and law and jump to incorrect conclusions as why it exists.

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AKBastardPosted: Jan 31, 2011 - 21:55
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Oh Christ, there's more...

"In 1604, a group of leading politicians, businessmen, merchants, manufacturers and bankers, met in Greenwich, then in the English county of Kent, and formed a corporation called the Virginia Company in anticipation of the imminent influx of white Europeans, mostly British at first, into the North American continent. Its main stockholder was the reptilian, King James I, and the original charter for the company was completed by April 10th 1606. This and later updates to the charter established the following:

...The Virginia Company comprised of two branches, the London Company and the Plymouth or New England Company...The ‘Pilgrims’ of American historical myth were, in fact, members of the second Virginia Company branch called the New England Company. The Pilgrim Society is still a major elite grouping within the Illuminati..

The Virginia Company owned most of the land of what we now call the USA, and any lands up to 900 miles offshore. This included Bermuda and most of what is now known as the Caribbean Islands. The Virginia Company (the British Crown and the bloodline families) had rights to 50%, yes 50%, of the ore of all gold and silver mined on its lands, plus percentages of other minerals and raw materials, and 5% of all profits from other ventures. These rights, the charters detailed, were to be passed on to all heirs of the owners of the Virginia Company and therefore continue to apply... forever! The controlling members of the Virginia Company who were to enjoy these rights became known as the Treasurer and Company of Adventurers and Planters of the City of London.

After the first 21 years from the formation of the Virginia Company, all ‘duties, imposts, and excises’ paid on trading activities in the colonies had to be paid directly to the British Crown through the Crown treasurer...

The lands of the Virginia Company were granted to the colonies under a Deed of Trust (on lease) and therefore they could not claim ownership of the land...

The monarch, through his Council for the Colonies, insisted that members of the colonies impose the Christian religion on all the people, including the Native Americans...

The criminal courts on the lands of the Virginia Company were to be operated under Admiralty Law, the law of the sea, and the civil courts under common law, the law of the land...

Now, get this. All of the above still applies today!" - David Icke, The Biggest Secret

Any US history buffs want to take a stab at this?

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anticultistPosted: Jan 31, 2011 - 22:05
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like I said man its all the nonsense of the freeman on the land movement, they believe they can use common law to bypass civil law and not conform to the way things work in the law system. They use these stories to validate their beliefs and recruit people into their little conspiracy group.

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If David icke believed this to be true ask him why he has a publisher, an agent, a lawyer and a manager to deal with all his work. According to his logic those would be admiralty law, yet he works on the land under supposed common law jurisdictions. So either what hes saying is bullshit or what he is saying is bullshit.

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This one will be perfect for Muertos, lawyer and historian.

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MuertosPosted: Feb 01, 2011 - 01:27
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Totally false.

Not even close to being accurate.

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 01, 2011 - 03:11
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^ Well, I figured that much.

But I wanted to know how so.

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MuertosPosted: Feb 01, 2011 - 08:37
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The "Virginia Company" was not the government of Virginia in 1783. It was the old company chartered by the British crown in Colonial times, which essentially dissolved in the 17th century when Virginia became a crown colony just like all the others (as opposed to a corporate chartered colony). That happened more than a century before the revolution.

In any event, corporations of the 1600s/1700s were totally different than they are today, not even comparable to anything Icke is saying.

It just didn't happen. I don't know what more I can say about it than that.

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