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Technically, no. Balanced simply means it incorporates a reasonable amount of each group, which a Big Mac does (has protein, carbs, and fat). The amount or integrity of those groups doesn't affect balance. Pragmatically, one could argue that a "balanced meal" insinuates a relatively high level of nutritional content, which a Big Mac does not have.

I think it is irresponsible for him to claim that it is "well balanced" when nutrition in America especially is so bad. It is not "well rounded" and has barely any nutritional value to speak of. When nutritionists talk about a well rounded diet they don't talk about lots of meat, cheese etc. They talk about vegetables, fruit, etc dark green leafy greens etc yet according to Dunning a cheeseburger at McDonalds "is actually quite a balanced meal"... "rich with just about every nutrient."

This sends a totally wrong message, and frankly in this age I would even go so far as to say its dangerous to peoples health if they actually believe that.

Dunning didn't say cheese is healthy.

Certainly sounds like it when he argued that if you add a piece of burger cheese to the hamburger it makes it even more nutritionally rich.

Yea the FDA and the Food Standards Agency in the UK are just like Hitler as well.

I like how you keep throwing around the term strawmen yet you just love lying about what I said. So funny. You're a strange troll Matt, you can't decide if you're serious or not. If you're loosing, you were just trolling anyway, I think thats probably how it works.

Straw men are Ed's favorite things. You can't take them away from him, because then there'd be nothing left to argue with.

You probably did straw man him, everyone does it every now and then. But no one does it on this forum as consistently as Ed does. Mostly the retard is arguing with imaginary shit that no one ever said. Its pretty standard for Ed.

so I shouldn't drink a bottle olive oil, even though it's a healthy fat? b-but it's healthy. you mean moderation is key? what a concept.

YOUD BE ABLE TO READ HIS MIND IF YOU WERENT POISONING YOURSELF WITH PROCESSED CHEESE IT BLOCKS THE PINEAL GLAND

That depends on how we're defining healthy.

There's a difference between Dunning's main argument and the one you're attacking.

The main argument being that McDonalds isn't as bad as Super Size Me makes out? Sure but as you said its not the only thing he says.

He ALSO makes claims about how nutritious a McDonalds cheeseburger is, that is separate from the Super Size Me issue. Now if you're saying what I said about ice cream is a strawman please tell me why its different. What if you substituted cheese in that part of his claim and put in ice cream, would it make it suddenly make no sense? No it makes just as much sense.

If you're saying that there is a difference between the cheese and the ice cream then please explain it, if you can do that I will acknowledge my response to be a strawman otherwise it stands.

Just because something has high salt, fat, etc in it in addition to required vitamins and minerals does not make the latter magically disappear. Sure, the former is unhealthy, especially in large amounts, but the idea that the latter is 100% irrelevant and untrue is bullshit.

Good thing I never made that claim Eric isn't it!

Good thing I never made that claim Eric isn't it!

Then what is your claim exactly? I've only seen you bitch and moan that everything except what you say is healthy, is unhealthy. OMFG HAMBURGERS HAVE PROTEIN BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY HAVE FAT TOO SO THEY'RE DEATH TOOLS! I'm being facetious, but that seems to be the point you are trying to make here.

Then please someone do it, because it seems to some here we'd have to call lard, ice cream, fruit loops, Mcdonalds burgers or fruit loops healthy because they contain some nutrients.

So, it really is the claim you're making then. Exactly as I said it, you disregard any potential nutritional value in anything if it also contains things that are unhealthy in large amounts.

HEY GUYS IF I REPEAT STUFF IT BECOMES TRUE

You're conflating meat with lard.

Typical fail from Ed.

Caramel, is that relevant?

edit: ahh I think I know what you're saying. Firstly we don't need much protein in our diet so calling a cheeseburger well rounded that contains just about every nutrient like Dunning says is still wrong. But also if we need that protein prime steak isn't such a bad choice, but compare that to a McDonalds burger its got high salt and high fats along with the protein so that means its not that healthy anymore. You have to look at the whole food and see just what benefits you get and whether the negatives outweigh the positives.

Seriously I could put the crappest diet on here with McDonalds, icecream, pizza, vitamin supplements instead of actual supplements and fizzy drinks and could make the claim that this is a healthy diet or that its "not that bad" simply because I could find all the good things in those foods. This does not mean it is a healthy diet just because I can find vitamins in fruit loops, or that I have lots of calcium from all the cheese or protein from all the Big Macs.

When you're arguing meat is unhealthy, I'd say so.