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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 08:46

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Genuine American Monster

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Would you have ragequit TZM if Merola had put the disclaimer on Zeitgeist 1?

And whatever happened to all the screen shots you claim to have?

Inquiring minds and all that.

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:15

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Well as I said when I left, no. I'd also go back if they effectively cut themselves off from notions of conspiracy theories, which seems to be happening (just a little too slowly, though). I'm a paying member of the Greens now, which essentially has very similar policies on economics to ZM. All you have to do is read point 1 of official policy here to gather that: http://greens.org.au/policies/sustainable-economy/economics</p>

The only difference is that ZM wants to cut the money out of the equation.

So essentially I'm still a member of The Zeitgeist Movement, except that it's called The Australian Greens and has near 2 million voters.

I'm not commenting on the screenshots.

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:16

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Genuine American Monster

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"I'm not commenting on the screenshots."

Why not? You've had no problem commenting on them in the past. The only problem you seem to have is producing them to go along with all the commenting.

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:20

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How on earth are the ZGM moving away from conspiracy theories?

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:20

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Well, my interview with the left-leaning journalist from the jewish magazine in NYC made me realise that antagonism is the last thing that this world needs. I will never release them. Ever.

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:22

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Genuine American Monster

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Antagonism is the last thing this world ever needs? Really? You seem to have no problems doing it here.

An email exchange isn't really an interview.

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:22

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How on earth are the ZGM moving away from conspiracy theories?

I'm not going to debate this.

Antagonism is the last thing this world ever needs? Really? You seem to have no problems doing it here.

Well, yes, I have to put myself on a level playing field.

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:24

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An email exchange isn't really an interview.

It was a live 60 minute voice/video discussion over Skype. She's a NYT bestseller. After that I produced a three page document for her.

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:24

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Genuine American Monster

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So you're saying the world still needs antagonism, just not when it comes to the screen shots you've been threatening to blackmail TZM with since you ragequit.

I see.

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:25

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No I'm saying that this forum is not the real world and I will not treat it as such. Coming on here is like role-playing. SRSLY.

I am not Brenton when I come on here, that's for sure.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:27

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Genuine American Monster

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I think what you're really saying is that you don't want to burn those final bridges to TZM because they won't take you back if you do.

So this forum isn't the real world but an Internet chat session on Skype is.

I see.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:31

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What do you mean 'take me back'?

See, this is the reason why I told the journalist who interviewed me that it wasn't a cult. Because I didn't know where to begin when she asked that question, and so she said "well, when you left, were the people you associated with in real life as a result of the movement antagonistic to you?" to which I had to honestly reply "no". There was not one person who showed any antagonism to me for leaving at all. This, of course, is a major characteristic of a cult. For example, I've grown up around many members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints which is more arguably a cult because if any of my friends who are in that group left they would be ostracised by friends/family members in the church and labelled an "apostate". I received no comparable treatment for leaving so I couldn't call it a cult.

Anyway, that rant there was needed to indicate that there are no bridges to burn at all. Choose your words better kiddo.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:35

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Genuine American Monster

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"There was not one person who showed any antagonism to me for leaving at all."

Then why did you threaten to blackmail them with screenshots of private dialogue?

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:38

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Why does a member of a caucus leak sensitive information? To achieve a personal political agenda.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:40

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Genuine American Monster

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So now you think you're Julian Assange as well as Jeffree Star.

Does TZM know your personal political agenda is to push Merola out? Apparently, you're not the only person who doesn't keep emails private.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:43

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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@Beauty Killer

>>I am not Brenton when I come on here, that's for sure.<<

Of course not your Lady Gaga.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:45

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This has nothing to do with Julian Assange. When I wrote that response I was thinking more of the leaks that rocked Julia Gillard during her election campaign last year and fundamentally changed the parties direction at the election.

I have/had no desire to push Peter out of anything. Regardless of whether I may have said so in an e-mail which you have. I have no recollection of saying such a thing, however.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:46

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@Beauty Killer

>>I am not Brenton when I come on here, that's for sure.<<

Of course not your Lady Gaga.

And you're hard to understand, so,...

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:46

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Genuine American Monster

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"I have/had no desire to push Peter out of anything. Regardless of whether I may have said so in an e-mail which you have."

Translation: Just because I said it doesn't mean I said it.

Great cover there Brenton.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:48

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Well, yes, because it's an honest one. There's nothing wrong with political word twisting if the intent is honest.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:49

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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@Beauty Killer

>>And you're hard to understand, so,...<<

You have bad reading comprehension skills...

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:52

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If Matt has such an e-mail, c'mon, post it. Because I send about 15 e-mails a year, and I've just scanned every possible e-mail from 2009-2010 with the term "peter" in it and I've got nothing of the sort you're suggesting.

So I'm left to assume that this is your own creation.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:52

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@Beauty Killer

>>And you're hard to understand, so,...<<

You have bad reading comprehension skills...

You have an ugly personality.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 09:59

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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@Beauty Killer

>>You have an ugly personality.<<

Coming from the person who values plastic surgery rather than accepting who you are in a physical and emotional sense. Not that I'm saying it wouldn't help but it's a sign you don't care yourself well, and you have very low self-esteem. Looks like your going to be puttering out now in shame and self-reflection.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 10:10

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@Beauty Killer

>>You have an ugly personality.<<

Coming from the person who values plastic surgery rather than accepting who you are in a physical and emotional sense. Not that I'm saying it wouldn't help but it's a sign you don't care yourself well, and you have very low self-esteem. Looks like your going to be puttering out now in shame and self-reflection.

Why do some of the most successful and balanced people on the planet get plastic surgery?

@Matt also just went through all the PM's on here which you have access to and found nothing of substance except for some words you could twist. That is all.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 10:18

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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@Beauty Killer because their ugly inside like yourself well ugly inside and out in your case but that's just my opinion.

Also name some people that have gotten Plastic surgery and now are successful?

I didn't know Bill Gates and Steve Jobs even Wazz went under the knife to be successful from a financial standpoint. Heck I have a lot of money and I never got plastic surgery or even considered it.

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Muertos

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 11:04

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Wait, what's this about plastic surgery? I missed something.

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 11:08

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Genuine American Monster

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I dunno, Brenton lives in a fantasy world.

Nothing new there.

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Muertos

Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 11:14

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I'm totally confused. So Brenton IS still a Zeitgeister?

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Posted: Jan 22, 2011 - 11:17

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Genuine American Monster

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Yes.

I never believed he really gave it up. He was just pissed that Merola doesn't listen to him any more than he listens to anyone else. Because, you know, Brenton's so fabulous. Just like Jeffree Star. He deserves to be listened to.

He thinks he can somehow push Merola's influence out of the movement. Good luck with that.

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