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EzPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 09:24
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I think this needs a debunking as CT'ers tend to take claims that fit their beliefs as gospel and a claim of someone on the "inside" confirming what they believe is regarded even more so.

Jim Tucker is a "journalist" who has been following the Bilderberg Group since 1975. During those 36 years he hasn't been able to discover any damning evidence (not suprising, as there is none) of the Bilderberg Group secretly ruling the world.

However he claims in 1991 to have infiltrated the Bilderberg meeting at Baden-Baden in Germany. From Wikipedia;

"Tucker has said he was able to write the "advance story" on the downfall of Margaret Thatcher and, later, about the rise of Bill Clinton when he attended the Bilderberg meeting at Baden-Baden in Germany as Governor of Arkansas in 1991."

First of all Jim Tucker never was Governor of Arkansas, Jim "Guy" Tucker was and he didn't become Governor until December 1992 which is a whole year after he claims he attended the meeting. Also there are no records of Jim "Guy" Tucker attending a Bilderberg meeting.

Second, Margaret Thatcher resigned as Prime Minister in 1990, a year before he claims to have witnessed the Bilderbergers planning her downfall. She was an MP until 1992 however and left because "it would give her more freedom to speak her mind". CT'ers would latch onto that as proving she couldn't speak her mind because of the NWO, but if that were the case they never would of let her stay on as an MP or a member of the House of Lords anyway. She was obviously talking about her political views and not being able to express them as openly as she could if she were not in the Government.

About predicting the rise of Bill Clinton, there isn't really any way to disprove it, but I think the rest of the evidence shows Tucker's claims to be complete bullstinky. And as usual he only made these claims AFTER Clinton had been elected.

He has been featured in Alex Jones' film "Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement" (2007) and in "New World Order" (2009) which also features Alex Jones.

If anyone else has anything to add about him and any other claims he's made, feel free to do so. As far as I know he claims to have attended other meetings, although none that reveal any amazing secrets.

Sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Tucker_(journalist)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Guy_Tucker<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Arkansas<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_participants#United_States<br /> http://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=124

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Agent MattPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 09:27
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Jim Tucker and The phenomenon of spontaneous past-life memories in children

http://vimeo.com/1451665</p>

Is this the same guy? If so, he's a nutbar.

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EzPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 09:34
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No he's a different guy, I came across the guy in the video when searching Google for information on the bilderberg Jim Tucker.

This is the guy in the video; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_B._Tucker

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Von KleistPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 11:08
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Jim Tucker is a fraud or an idiot. Luckily for him his readers are morons. Ironically, Tucker claims his first Bilderberg visit was in 1975, in Turkey. He seems not to have noticed that the leader of Her Majesty's Opposition, Margaret Thatcher, was also there. She also went to the Bilderberg in 1986, and was, in her own words, 'delighted' to have attended.

Tucker claims the Bilderbergers ousted Thatcher because she was hostile to Britain joining the European single currency. 20 years on, after Major, Blair and Brown Britain still hasn't joined the Euro. Tuckers predictions about the nefarious schemes of the Bilderbergers have been universally wrong: there is no NAU, no Iran attack, oil is STILL under $100 a barrel and Hugo Chavez is still alive and well.

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Agent MattPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 11:11
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"and Hugo Chavez is still alive and well."

Unfortunately.

That guy is a crook. The massive slums still exist despite his great "socialist revolution."

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Caramel ColorPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 11:38
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So where can I find a copy of this "advance story" he wrote?

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EzPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 13:24
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From what I know in "Endgame" him and Alex Jones just hang around outside the meeting and don't actually go in there. I'd say he just follows people around and tries to listen in. I highly doubt he could of infiltrated any of their meetings and even if he did I doubt he'd be successful a second time.

@Caramel Color

He has a book titled "Jim Tucker's Bilderberg Diary: Reporter's 25year Battle to Shine the Light on the world Shadow Government". I'd say that would contain most of his "advanced stories", all penned after the event in question has happened of course.

I found some details of it here: http://oneheartbooks.com/books/secret_societies/bilderberg_diary.htm</p>

@Von Kleist

"Thatcher later told him it was "a tribute to be denounced by them" at a function in Washington, according to Tucker's "close paraphrasing" of the conversation." (Wikipedia)

Although I really cant see him being at a function also hosting Margaret Thatcher, let alone being able to talk to her. Outside of conspiracy circles he isn't that well known and couldn't be considered a reliable journalist by any sane person.

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Caramel ColorPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 14:41
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hey sailor

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Of course you have to pay for it, it wouldn't make any sense to share this apparently dire information with the public for free.

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Agent MattPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 14:48
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Wow, this site sells a whole lot of crazy

Atlantis, Aliens... it goes on and on.

Jeff Rense in the links section too. Every conspiracy theorist's favorite Anti-Semite.

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EzPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 14:49
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Yeah I just typed in Jim Tucker in Google and that was the first site with information on his book, lot of woo there indeed

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Agent MattPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 14:51
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EzPosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 14:57
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Wow, his voice is so bad I can't even understand what he's singing about. Judging by the site it will be some kind of woo though.

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JoePosted: Jan 16, 2011 - 20:28
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We had I long decussion about the guy on the facebook page last year; when I was still deep into CTs.
Matt; Jim Tucker was a reporter for that rag The Spotlight and now the National Review.
http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/predictions/view/40/bilderberg-green-lights-attacking-iran-within-two-years/

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Wolf BirdPosted: Feb 02, 2011 - 09:50
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A bit late, but here's the skeptoid take on it.

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4225</p>

In short, there's nothing secret, they release who's there. They do keep some secrecy about what's talked about, but he makes a logical point as to why that may not be the case. It's simply for the same reason others hold secret meetings - it encourages freer, franker discussion. But they apparently release general lists of topics for discussion.

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