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Academy Awards? HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA!!!! Oh my God. Someone please get a screenshot of this post.

He really thinks he's going to get an Oscar for his internet conspiracy film, doesn't he? Or that he deserves one.

Dylan Avery didn't even daydream about Academy Awards when he made Loose Change. Merola is seriously delusional. Unbelievable.

I actually doubt he'll involve conspiracy theories in the third film. We'll see, but I actually think he's learnt since Z I & II.

I also respect that he's actually trying to do something that'll force the chapters to get involved and do SOMETHING - i.e., no member can see my film that they've been anticipating unless they go to one of the organised physical screenings, or wait a certain number of weeks to see it online (being the essence of what he's saying).

I'm going to reserve being negative (if need arises) until after the film is released. I don't want to seem like I'm sidelining myself either for or against for now.

If Peter Joseph's "films" made it to "Hollywood", they would probably be laughed at, not because of the poor research and conspiranoia (Hollywood doesn't care a lot about that accuracy stuff see Michael Moore for example), but because the film-making is so cheesy. I'm mean take a look at this scene from Z2, he might as well have filmed Jacque Fresco coming down from the sky on a silver cloud. Or in the first Zeitgeist when he showed the twin towers getting hit over and over rapid fire. People who review movies would shit all over this garbage.

Why would they focus on college students and use gimmicks to attract them? Wouldn't they want professors and scientists to be their main audience? They're the ones who have the power and knowledge needed to not only realize the full magnitude of the movie's info and its impact on the world, but to also attend to the movie without a bunch of silly advertising. They're also paid little enough to still have a desire to change the world.

Or maybe they want to grab the insecure kids with high potential before they can solidify their grasp on rationale. I wonder why. It reminds me of Ron Paul trying to rile up college kids.

> I will forgo any income on this

Excellent!

But didn't I just read someplace that he hopes to get back all the money he has invested in the films production ?

So I assume what he means is, 'once I have got all the money back I've invested, then I will not be taking any extra' ?

Now if he was transparent about how much he had invested, we might know, and see when he has got it all back.

But at least his heart appears to be in the right place...

(So, who gets the excess money, Fresco ?)

> arrange with the chapter heads to fund their own theatrical event - keeping any
> income they obtain

Oh thats good news, finally helping the chapters to develop an income.

> which is to be used only for future promo work for that chapter.

Ah, thats not so good news..

So, they can make tons of money, but they have to remain homeless/etc. and only spend it spreading the word..

At least a 50/50 deal would be nice, spend some on spreading the word, the rest as income for members, or for other projects. (Will that idea make it, doubtful, but one has at least to put it out there in the hope it might.)

> I am doing this to try and help the chapters get a little money to work with,

Excellent news again, nice to see money making isn't an evil thing now..

> it will be delayed due to my interest to see a physical presence in each chapter
> screening

Fair enough, and dare I say awfully business like and sensible. (Is this the same Peter we ask ourselves..)

> if the work was at least nominated (and given the mass release it might have globally
> it will put it on their radar) it would help the exposure of the movement
> dramatically.

Yes again, a nice sensible stratagy.

> There will also be a huge PR campaign with film festivals and press
> submissions/reviews. I'm sure it will be trashed by most reviewers, but who cares.
> The work is massive and multi-dimensional... near 3 hours, I suspect, with extremely
> high end graphic/live action work that is unprecedented in my prior films, coupled
> around the straight forward documentary style.

Yes, after all, look at that Michael Moore film:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism:_A_Love_Story

Not what I'd really call a film worth watching in my view, but if someone can make money with something like that, it wouldn't surpise me that PJ could equally make money from something as awful.

What is perhaps depressing is that even if he did, the money would be just pissed away creating DVD's for landfill and no real change would be actioned in the world.

> Wouldn't they want professors and scientists to be their main audience?

You would think wouldn't you.

But to appeal to those guys, you have to be actually quite sensible about your solutions, and most currently that I see who come across TZM material just about instantly dismiss it as a joke, those that look further, dismiss it on many grounds and don't take it at all serious. So as such, one would have a long way to go before sensible people took any notice, which just leaves the innocent and naive young folk to market it to..

> he has left evidence on his own forum indicating that he could easily be shown
> to break the rules for consideration.

Not the most sensible thing to do there..

Next he'll be suggesting we don't buy Fresco's books, but pirate them.. :-)

Still, its nice to see him trying.

But, yes a but :-) it would be nice if he let others try other solutions as well and work with him, but oh well, wish him the best and hope he makes enough to buy someplace to live and stop paying that greedy capitalist landlord of his! (Or his brothers..)

If he doesn't win, you know it was to silence the truth!

If he hopes to get nominated for an Academy Award, he must have raised his standards of journalistic work - I don't remember them being interested in rehashed material or CT flicks.

Or he is irrationally optimistic again, which wouldn't really surprise me at this point.

Well, he does imply that he only hopes for a nomination. Which is optimistic, when we consider the journalistic standards of Z1 and Z2, but I'm still curious if he tries harder in Z3.

If he loses against the next "Sicko", he'll probably blame the economic system. Or the intellectual inhibition of the judges.

HAHAHHA owned, so wait Peter Merola has no excuse for not releasing the movie now over the internet since his entire 4 hour movie isn't eligible for the academy award now.

Pwned by Realworldistan.

Also LOL@Thunder popping into that thread to pwn himself.

I find it funny now his excuse of not releasing the movie for a chance to get the academy awards is totally blown he comes back with now we need to make money on it so we'll not be releasing it because of that now... it's just pure BS....

So they don't accept online movies made for shameless self-promotion by nobodies, interesting.

When has he ever admitted being wrong?