Skeptic Project

So a few months back I came across a book by Fritz Springmeier called "The Illuminati Formula to Creating a Totally Undetectable Mind Controlled Slave." or something along those lines.

The book is fascinating and while I do know that the government has done illegal, unethical experiments in the past such as radiation experiments on unwilling, unsuspecting cancer patients, military personal etc. (There was a Youtube video that talked about radiation experiments being part of the MK-ULTRA and Project Monarch programs though I am not sure about that or if rad experiments are continuing. More on that later.)and that MK-ULTRA did exist.

However Springmeier claims that these experiments still go on and that there is in fact 2 million Americans in the Monarch Program and even claims that he himself was a victim. For those that are unfamiliar, this program was designed by the CIA at the behest of the shadowy "Illuminati" in order to create in a person Dissociative Identity Disorder by using extreme trauma. Supposedly, by doing this they can create a "Manchurian Candidate" that will not remember their missions. A very complex system is set up so that each alter is triggered by a visual, auditory, tactile etc cue. The slave's alters are trained in specific areas such as espionage or sex slave training (which seems to be a popular conspiracy theory for female celebrities.)This programming is supposedly so complex that alters can have alters and even those alters will be broken down into further alters. Various forms of torture and trauma are used (which brings us back to the radiation experiments and such)such as sleep deprivation, rape, sensory deprivation, all to bring about a desired personality.

The thing is, when I read the book, I thought it was way to incredulous to be happening. The sheer number of people involved, not to mention the logistics of shipping children to a facility that is supposed to be near China Lake (thousands of infants, according to this book, are shipped there and placed in electrified cages in a large hanger.)as well as the complex system of psychological manipulation makes me think that this kind of operation on this scale is nearly impossible to maintain in secrecy and that sooner or later the whistleblower effect will take place. Now, that is what happened with the old MK-ULTRA, the radiation experiments, Tuskegee, etc. If, as Springmeier claims, that Project Monarch, a spinoff of MK-ULTRA is still continuing, how come there have been no evidence of it happening?

Yes there have been people that have come out and claimed that they were victims of this clandestine operation, such as Cathy O'Brien and Roseanne Barr. However when I read about them on the Internet I can't help but notice that they seem to come from Christian sources, or conspiracy theory sites. There are no objective sites that talk about this. Another thing that I noticed is that these so-called victims often bring up incidents of SRA or Satanic Ritual Abuse. Also it seems that these "victims" have a very religious background and often are being treated by Christian counselors, who may, as I think, caused false memory syndrome and false abreactions in these people for some reason.

I just want to know, what do you think about this particular conspiracy theory and do you think that it is possible that such an operation could be going on today? Or do you think that it would be impossible because of how much is involved? Are there any sites debunking this conspiracy theory and where and how did this Project Monarch come about combined with the illuminati, Freemasons, CIA etc?

It is very farfetched that I don't believe it myself, though it would make for a very awesome comic book or sci-fi movie. It's fueled my own imagination but like I said I don't believe that it can happen. We don't understand the intricities of the human mind all that well to be able to do something like this.

I do know that it is a fact that the government HAS done illegal, nonconsensual, and clandestine experiments but they have been brought to light and while I think that it was wrong and disgusting that they did it in that manner, if they hadn't done it we wouldn't have the knowledge that we have today. Mind you I'm not trying to justify these medieval, Nazi-like experiments.